Friday, April 2, 2010

The Notice Put on Saverel Walls Aroung Camp 3, Tibetan Settlement Mundgod

Since couple of months, there have been many similar activities putting notices outside the shops and restaurants around the camp 3, Tibetan Settlement Mundgod. I should not describe in detail what has been mentioned in these letters as these are most noticeable that what the allegation would be like.... so I have tried to translate them into English which I am not that good so hopefully it will be a comprehensive one...

1)To Devotees of AvalokiteĊ›vara,

In camo no. 3, near the mustachioed Amdo's restaurant, a shop owned by a family of camp 4, they are Shugden worshipers thus, you all are strongly recommended not walk in or buy anything from this shop.

by the group of enemy defeater-

2) To the Ministry of Security of Exile Government,

Sonam Dolma wife of Lobsang Choejor and Kalsang Dorje in Tibetan Camp No. 4 have been facing various problem since they were alleged as a Shugden worshipers. Later they have taken oath in front of red and black protectors with presence of all the people in community hall of camp no 4. We (representative office) have received a confirmation letter from the leaders of camp 4 that the oath taking session has done compulsorily before all the people and protectors.

From The Representative Office of Mundgod on dated: 2nd, February 2010


  1. This is very sad news.
    The monks of Shar Gaden are very brave and are heros for Lama Je Tsongkhapa.
    Many blessing to everyone at Shar Gaden. We are all very proud of what you are doing.

  2. "I doubt however that this campaign will stop there.

    If you didn’t know, they have already “CLEANED UP” the LAM RIM lineage prayer and REMOVED "Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang’s name from that lineage.

    Sherig Pharkhang, the official printer for the Department of Religion and Culture, has even removed Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang’s name mantra from the consecration mantras that they print.

    This means that if one were to order the collection of mantras that are used to fill statues, stupas and many holy objects they WILL NOT INCLUDE Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang."

    Some may wonder why we fight? Look back at the photo of young Kyabje Choktrul Rinpoche arm being held by the Dalia Lama and then think of this fact and look again into the eyes of the Dalia Lama and you see as we have said, an Imposter!

  3. Regarding the Dalai Lama's disclosure of "historical evidence" on Shugden I found the following statements taken from legal papers contextualized the dishonesty he is conveying.


    “Half the truth may obviously amount to a lie, if it is understood to be the whole.”

    "Deception, by which we mean words or conduct intended to induce false beliefs in others, plays a complex role in human life. Well-socialized people revere honesty and disapprove of lying and other forms of deception. At the same time, well-socialized people people engage in deception, regularly and skillfully, not only for altruistic reasons, but also to gain advantages over others."

  4. It appears that the skirmishes leading up to the Battle in New Delhi to unseat the Dalia Lama as a fraud and destroyer of the dharma will continue for some time yet to come.
    However, Our Cause is Just and We Will Achieve Victory over this Despot.
    The Courts will hear the testimonies of the plantiffs affected by the TGIE Persecution of others Rights to Believe as they Wish!
    I find this quite interesting that the monks who have suffered along with the Lay People will be honored to cast their accusations in the Dalia Lama's face. Sad Saffron Robes testifying in Civil Courts! How sad!
    But if Pope's can protect pedophiles and Lama protect the wealthy. Then we have all right to tear them down to size and force them to see the errors of their ways.
    "Dalia Lama and Bob Thurman have already “CLEANED UP” the LAM RIM lineage prayer and REMOVED "Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang’s name from that lineage."
    This will end in Samasara, where it began and no quarter is asked and no quarter given.
    I will extract Justice from the Dalia Lama for all the hurt he has caused to others.
    I will see Justice served with my Companions, we will see this through to the end of time/
    We will Defend the Buddhadharma and keep Lord Buddha's Words as Pure as the day he spoke them!

  5. Letter from Shugden Society USA:

    To the Attention of the World Media

    Today, April 5, 2010, marks the 14th anniversary of the appalling segregation and violation of the religion freedom initiated by the Tibetan Government-in-exile.

    On April 5, 1996, after Dalai Lama's teaching, Gaden Choeling nunnery in Dharamsala dragged the Shugden statue out, trod on, and flung into a garbage pit. In this way the campaign of threatening and segregation of Dorje Shugden practitioners started.

    We have to admit with regret that up to present the segregation campaign goes on throughout the world. The recent example of unfortunate developments is shutting down of Tibetan Association of Western Massachusetts, in US in October of 2008. The organization had been working to unite the Tibetan community, promote, and preserve Tibetan culture and traditions and the Tibetan cause as well.

    In order to thwart such incidents, as well as to restore religious freedom, the Dorje Shugden Devotees Charitable and religious Society has been established fourteen years ago.

    In 2008, the oath and signature campaign of breaking off religious and material relationship with Shugden devotees were introduced in the monasteries and Tibetan settlements. The implication resulted in the open segregation in the Tibetan society.

    On February 20, 2010, when 68 of the 100 invited guests as well as performers left the wedding party in New York City because a few Dorje Shugden devotees were invited. Those who left apologized and explained that they did not want to break the oath that they had taken to segregate from the followers of Dorje Shugden.

    As the devotees are suffering from abuses, discrimination, disparage and humiliation, the Dorje Shugden Devotees Charitable and Religious society has had no option but to file a writ petition in Delhi High Court; and the case is in progress presently. The Society is confident that the court will resolve the case in a just and expeditious manner. Many of the spiritual campaigns led by the civil society have triumphed, and these cases should inspire our cause and persuade the Tibetan Government in exile to give the humans rights to its own people.

    Today we mark the 14th anniversary of the ban imposed on worship of the deity Dorje Shugden by the Tibetan Government in Exile in Dharamsala. In view of the history, we think it is important to observe the anniversary. In spite of impairment of our religious freedom, dignity and equality, we developed tolerance and understanding, and seek to live in peaceful co-existence. However, the repression continues to deteriorate with every passing year.

    As Buddhists, we feel responsible for supporting and promoting honesty, good will, love, peace and harmony in society. We respect the diversity of religion, culture and traditions in the world.

    May everyone relish religious freedom and peace!

  6. Lozang Gyaltsan commented on your wall post:

    "Thom, The time I spent in IN at your place with Trijang Rinpoche, Gonsar Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche is still one of the most spiritually potent experiences of my life. Dagom Rinpoche, for those who may not know, is my Ordination Master. The work of these amazing Lamas has been strengthened by your unending devotion and your tireless contributions to them all. Those of us who have benefiitted from their tireless efforts owe your a debt of gratitude."

  7. We are the Apostles of Shri Dorje Shugden, The Supreme Dharma Protector of Lord Je T'Song Khapa's Teachings. Brought Down To Us Preserved Exactly as Written With Pure and Pristine Clarity,
    In the Moment Lord Buddha Spoke!

    We Maintain and Protect Je T'Song Khapa's Teachings!
    Lord Shugden request Your Participation
    Or did you have something else to do?

  8. And Buddha should listen....

    Serenity and generosity are qualities of the heart. Insight and Concentration are qualities of the mind. Compassion and wisdom are qualities of the ture nature. ~ Heart of A Buddha
    There are three ways to correct our faults: We can change through behavior. We can change through understanding. We can change from the heart. ~ Heart of A Buddha
    The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. ~Buddha
    What I know is like the leaves on that tree; what I teach is only a small part. But I offer it to all with an open hand. What do I not teach? Whatever is fascinating to discuss, divides people against each other, but has no bearing on putting an end to sorrow. What do I teach? Only what is necessary to take you to the other shore. ~The Buddha
    "Reverence, humility, contentment, gratitude, and the timely hearing of the Dhamma, the teaching of the Buddha — this is the highest blessing. ~Buddha
    If the causes we create arise from wisdom, so then will the results. If the causes we create arise from ignorance, so then will the results. -Heart of A Buddha
    "victory breeds hatred. The defeated live in pain. Happily the peaceful live, giving up victory and defeat." ~The Buddha
    Happiness and tranquility arise from concentration. Frustration and worries arise from desire. -Heart of A Buddha
    When threatened with danger, men go to many a refuge, - to mountains and forests, to parks and gardens, and to sacred trees. But such a refuge is not a safe refuge, not the best refuge. One is not liberated from all evil consequences of existence (dukkha) for having come to such a refuge. ~Dhammapada

  9. It is not as complicated as all that. This man has a Public Relations Issue! The fact the he Killed a Wisdom Buddha and we are not about to let him or the world forget.Once they understand the issue that is.
    It is a Word War now and he cannot outlast the Chinese or Us. Who will correct the history that Thurman has been so busy attempting to homogenize for American Consumption. He figured a long time ago that the Dalia Lama had to seize total power by the erradication of the other Mahayanna Schools of Thought. Think of him as a Gobbel or Himmler reincarnate. Even Domo Geshe Rinpoche refused this Mad Man the Empowerment twice. Ursula told me that Thurman was on the floor wiggling and pleading made the Master even more resolved to refuse him.It does not matter that Thurman wiggled control of Tibet House. Who cares, he barely rates as a scribe.
    Thurman has nothing but a wall eye and a hot temper. Gere has few roles left to tittilate the youth and once DL hits the road for good. His passing will not even invoke the attention that Michael Jackson's passing did.
    His History will catch up with him and when it does, he will be on his knees. Is what I think.
    Give it two hundred years and we'll see how the history stacks up when this depot is no more on this earth.
    No matter what is said. Living life without he whims of the aristocrats and mean spirited monks mutilating the peasantry with all manner of terrors. The Tibetans fare better than the Indigenous People's of the USA. Here only a little over two million survive on 250,000sq miles of mostly waste lands.The Shools are challenged, utilities are a myth and suicide and cultural genocide are guaranteed within 30 years.
    The Tibetans are being pushed from Gers to housing and interconnecting Utilities,school eduaction is mandatory until 16 years and grants are widely available to further their eduactions to become Doctors and Nurses, Agronomist and other opportunities never available under the Dalia Lama Despotic Institution of Serfs and Slaves. He could not govern his own trips to the louvre, let alone governing a people justly. He did nothing for the COMMON PEOPLE. This is why the population did not rise up to support his Guerillas supported and schemed by the CIA.
    His support in Tibet does not extend as wide as you seem to suppose. In any event, it does not matter what he says or does. The Chinese are going their way and he is off the Bus. The Panchen Lama is in charge of his reincarnation. He can squirm all he wants, but he has no say anymore on anything. I trust a louse more than this one.At least with a louse, you can squeeze them between your fingertip!

  10. n'Why You are not a Buddhist' which really is a must).

    Here are the first few verses:

    What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: our life is the creation of our mind. If a man speaks or acts with an impure mind, suffering follows him as the wheel of the cart follows the beast that draws the cart.

    What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: our life is the creation of our mind. If a man speaks or acts with a pure mind, joy follows him as his own shadow.

    'He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me.' Those who think such thoughts will not be free from hate.

    'He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me.' Those who think not such thoughts will be free from hate.

    For hate is not conquered by hate: hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal.

    Many do not know that we are here in this world to live in harmony. Those who know this do not fight against each other.


  12. Manjunatha Sumati Kirti Foundation
    contact: Bastian Schmieder
    Due to the on-going persecution of adherents of the four centuries-old Buddhist protective deity Dorje Shugden by Tenzin Gyatso, aka the 14th Dalai Lama, and his "Central Tibetan Administration" (CTA)following a ban of that religious practise in March 1996 through the Tibetan "God-King", the Dorje Shugden Devotees' Charitable and Religious Society filed a Petition to the Delhi High Court, New Delhi, India in 2008.After more than two years of struggle, the Petition was finally dismissed by Justice Muralidhar on April 5, 2010 on technical grounds. In contradiction to this, in a statement on April 20, 2010 on its website, the CTA stated that the door for similar complaints of their victims in the future had been closed by the Justice. Nothing could be me more far away from the truth, as Justice Muralidar clearly stated that by dismissing the case in its present form he would not express any opinion on the merits or demerits of the case as well as he very clearly pointed out in paragraph 12 of the Order, "It is howeverclarified that the dismissal of this petition will not preclude any individual member or member of thePetitioner No. 1 Society [i.e., the above named Dorje Shugden Society] to seek appropriate remedies asmay be available to them in law before the appropriate forum…". This, in fact, is an obvious hint on how further legal struggle by Dorje Shugden adherents could be entertained.CTA further states that the Petition had been dismissed due to 'vague averments' regarding cases of harassment and persecution against Shugden devotees. Citing the Justice's statements completely out ofcontext, the CTA thereby tries to draw a new picture of reality. The actual order in fact reads that it were vague statements because "the criminal law remedies available to the Petitioners has not been
    availed by them" (para 8), i.e. victims, maybe due to intimidation and fear of further persecution, didnot complain to the local police.Furthermore, the CTA claims that the Justice had stated the acts of persecution and harassment were not justifiable as argued by the Petitioners. This is, however, a sheer distortion of facts and a deliberate lie, as the Justice’s statement referred to the ban of the Shugden practise itself that he considers to be religious. He clearly pointed out that all cases of persecution and harassment were indeed justifiable and it was to the State of Himachal Pradesh to investigate in them (or the state of Karnataka,
    The nature of the CTA's statement clearly shows their modus operandi. Facts and even official Court documents are cited out of context, distorted and put into a new and fabricated context. Even through only superficially studying the judgement it becomes clear that it was a draw. The dismissal, as presented above, was mainly out of two reasons. First, the Justice did not see a territorial jurisdiction of the Delhi High Court pointing towards the law and order institutions of the States of Himachal Pradesh(the seat of the Tibetan leader) and Karnataka (the site of the large Tibetan settlements Mundgod and Bylakuppe). Secondly, he mentioned the lack of records in the police files due to the absence of complaints by victims of the Dalai Lama's actions. All other reasons for dismissing the Petition asgiven by the Judge were of technical nature.

  13. Warriors of Shambala will Defend the Lineage of Je T'Song Khapa by Bearing Witness Against Samdung and the Dalia in a Court Of Law.
    The Dalia is Going Down in a Tailspin of Smoke.

  14. Tonight was my first visit to camp 3.
    I went there with a known Shugdenpa and many people refused to even look us in the eye. They must feel the shame that they have brought upon themselves.
    Jampa, you are a gem of our lineage. You have taught me so much in the short time we have been friends. Thank you for everything!

  15. The Apple Tree is like the Lama Choepa
    Spring Brings Forth White Blossoms
    Revealing a Red Button Bloosom
    Red Blossoms Float to Full White Flowers
    Honey Bees Gather All Day Kissing the Flowers
    Delicious Promises Wait Until Fall
    As Our Lamas and Friends
    Kiss and Pull Our Heart Strings
    We Are As Flowers,
    Bringing Forth the Fruit of the Dharma

  16. One Day All the Lamas, Monks and so-called Buddhist Centers that now support the Dalia Lama and his attempt to Destroy the BuddhaDhama will Be Held Accountable.
    If I were you, I would Wise Up!
    Hear me Thurman, Gere, Smadung and all you Grubby Royalty Loving Traitors?

    Soon these Moochers will shown for what they are. Maggots!

    He is Afraid, Fearful to Actually Engage In A Converstaion.
    He thinks he is the last word.
    Well, his not and I and Others will Make Him Sing Like A Canary!
    Enough of his Entitlements.
    This garbage can bang all he wants.
    We know him for the Garbage He truly emmantes
    He is a Trash Talking Garbage Can Full Of His Own Shittiness

  17. The Bill Of Rights Is Our Unifying Factor
    All else hinges on Our Freedoms
    It does not matter if it is a cult or so-called religion
    It is Our Rights That We Fight For
    Everyone has the Right to Believe as they Wish
    This Lama is a Cuckoo alright
    He is an insane tyrant

    Darth Vader visits Bloomington!

    Jabba the Hut is more like it!

  18. I recently erected a Wind Tower,
    Will measure the Winds for a Year.
    Inside the Wind Cups that Capture the Wind as it Spins,
    I painted the Protector's Mantra
    So it is a Wind Prayer Wheel for Green Energy
    Will Support the Vajra Vega Wana Monastery
    For As Long As the Winds Blow
    The Grass Grows
    The Dharma Will Flow!
    The Protector told me so!

    Truth is like Water,
    It finds a Way Out!

    The Dalia Lama is a liar!
    Because he claims,
    He was with Lord Buddha at the time of his Teachings.
    I know he is lying.
    Because I was there,
    and I never ever saw him with Lord Buddha

  19. The Scum Sucker Secrets in the Robes of Holy Lama Grifting the Guillible in NY for only $350.00 of [3]Three Days of Spectaular Revelations
    They think he is Jesus Christ!
    Like Sheep they Follow the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
    Blind Faith is for a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.
    What is he selling that cost a hundred dollars a pop?
    Like the Catholic Church
    The Largest Corporation in the world
    He salivates to occupy a similar home known as the Potala.
    This no lama, let alone a Buddhist
    He is at his roots instructed as a Muslim
    No changing the facts
    He is a narcisstic pig

    It is amazing to me how blind people can be.
    I thought the Tibetans the most guillible and ignorant in the world
    Now, I see it is my own countrymen who toss off the Values and Principles this Country was Founded as though it were toilet paper.
    Sooner or later the dribbles of truth will become a Tsunami of Revelations concerning the tragedy and grief this man spreads under the guise of a holy man.
    Sooner or later this man will be ground as dust beneath the feet.
    His demeanor is e/flash/flash1905102353.jpg
    is as he appears. An Old Man that wears his deeds and thoughts upon his face.

    As they say, the Best is Yet to Come.
    We know this because his time is short here on this earth.
    His Press is only local and no news
    No one cares about Tibet
    It is a settled issue
    All the better for the Peasants

    His only liasson to Lhasa is through his old Employer the KGB or Russian Federation.
    Tossed away by the CIA, He must rely upon the Former Communist to secure a seat with the Chinese Communist. As long as he behaves himself. His last role as a pawn is to subdue his own people and the Muslims within a Hot Bed of dissension. Much of it is his own makiing,
    Why not?
    He will be revealed for what he really is.
    The fun part is , he will not get the last word.
    We Will!

  20. Does anyone comprehend the significance that this Dalia Lama was born and raised a Muslim in Tagster, Tibet? Does anyone understand his parents were Muslims? Does anyone understand the essence of this man is one of a Muslim. It is uncanny that people do not see the implications that this was not the correct Dalia Lama that was chosen in the first place.
    Does everyone understand that the Nazi SS Offiecers officially commented on the serverity that the Ruling Lama Class treated the peasants to their astonishment being more harsh than Medieval Europe. He had tens of thousands of serfs and slaves at the time the Chines invaded.
    'He could have liberated his own people while he was in power. Only when he was exposed, did he start shouting Free Tibet. Free for What? Reimplementing the Serf System.
    What kind of lama take money for others to fight and die for his Kingdom?
    Not a Buddhist One!
    That would be impossible.


    No one relishes pointing out anothers faults and and using detogatory words to draw attention to the others problems. We all are human and have problems.
    It is only when some of us begin to think as Yertle the Turtle and misrepsent themselves from one side of the world to the other. This is what the Dalia Lama is busy doing. Busy being a Politician instead of a monk.
    He can profess whatever poitical sentiment he wishes. I doubt Lord Buddha would ever have adhered to a political postion,But this man does.
    Anyone can check the facts by simply reviewing the web site or read the book by the www.westernshugdensociety,co m new book that is the Dalia Lama own words taken into a book called,"The Great Deception" The High Lama Policy. Here on can decide for oneself, if this man is being straight or just hustling the naive West with his mundane Magician Powers?

  21. Dymoke is the name of an English family holding the office of king's champion. The functions of the champion were to ride into Westminster Hall at the coronation banquet, and challenge all comers to impugn the King's title (see Champion). The earliest record of the ceremony at the coronation of an English king dates from the accession of Richard II. On this occasion the champion was Sir John Dymoke (died 1381), who held the manor of Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire, in right of his wife Margaret, granddaughter of Joan Ludlow, who was the daughter and co-heiress of Philip Marmion, last Baron Marmion. The Marmions claimed descent from the lords of Fontenay, hereditary champions of the dukes of Normandy, and held the castle of Tamworth, Leicestershire, and the manor of Scrivelsby. The right to the championship was disputed with the Dymoke family by Sir Baldwin de Freville, lord of Tamworth, who was descended from an elder daughter of Philip Marmion. The court of claims eventually decided in favor of the owners of Scrivelsby on the ground that Scrivelsby was held in grand serjeanty, that is, that its tenure was dependent on, rendering a special service, in this case the championship.

    Sir Thomas Dymoke (1428?-1471) joined a Lancastrian rising in 1469, and, with his brother-in-law Richard, Lord Willoughby and Welles, was beheaded in 1471 by order of Edward IV after he had been induced to leave sanctuary on a promise of personal safety. The estates were restored to his son Sir Robert Dymoke (died 1546), champion at the coronations of Richard III, Henry VII, and Henry VIII, who distinguished himself at the Siege of Tournai and became treasurer of the kingdom. His descendants acted as champions at successive coronations

    Now, We are the Protector's Champion

  22. This is an interesting article about the Dalai Lama's hypocrisy from

    'Marxist' Dalai Lama Visits New York, Denounces Capitalism (Sort Of)

    'Marxist' Dalai Lama Visits New York, Denounces Capitalism (Sort Of)The exiled Tibetan spiritual leader is holding court in New York, where yesterday he said Marxism has "moral ethics" and capitalism is solely about "how to make profits." Event tickets were between $20-$60. He's holding a Twitter Q&A today, too!

    His Holiness is in town on a four day visit, where he has been speaking at Radio City Music Hall and hanging out with Richard Gere. According to the AP, yesterday he told the crowd, some of who paid $700 for scalped tickets, that "still, I am Marxist," and that capitalism creates economic inequalities that are very bad. But he said Marxism only works if the regime in power is nice and doesn't abuse its authority. And then he basically said capitalism saved China. Want to make up your mind, man?

  23. I am a Westener with all the frills and chills.
    I come from a long gentic line of those who Protect Others
    I come from a line that put the Sword to King John's throat and made him sign the Magna Carta
    I come from a line that established the rules of war and the foundation for the Geneva Convention
    I come from a line that fought the Muslim back
    I come from a line that established a Nation
    I come from a line that produced thirteen signators of the Declaration of Independence.
    I come from a line that does not accept duplicity and deceit from others
    I come from a line that Will Fight to Defend the Hard Won Freedoms Until Death
    I come from a line that Defends the Dharma and the Rights of Others
    I will Defend Until the End
    Our Right to Believe as We Wish!
    I am a Western Buddhist
    Protected by the Bill Of Rights!